Aga see kõik ei takista pangakontot andmast ju Ütled, et kui raha reaalselt sul sõrmedevahel on, siis liiguvad asjad edasi ja vsjo.

Sõbral oli selline situatsioon:

Müüs GPS-se. Tuli kiri,et tüüp usas ja tema sõber inglismaalt tahab seda osta. Leppisid kokku,et ostja teeb ülekande ja siis paneb asjad posti.
Sõbrale tuli kiri mingist välismaa pangast(saksa oli vist),et teie nimele on 150 eurot summa,eesti kontole kantakse see siis,kui ta saadab pangale postisaadetise tracking numbri.

Siin juba ei sobi see,et üks on inglismaalt,üks usast ja arveldamine eurodes. Plus siis kokku oli lepitud väiksem summa,ala 120 euri vist.
Sai uuritud sealt pangast ja vastati et nii asjad ei käi ja pettus see. Imelik oli see,et mail mis tuli,näitas saatja aadrssiks seda panka. Mail klappis.

Nii,et enne kui käegakatsutav raha sul arvel,käes pole,saada kõik välismaised tehingud pikalt

Nalja teema minu jaoks siin, kuidas eestlased nigeerlastele oma arust "ära panevad"

Milleks üldse sellistele teemadele nii suurt tähelepanu pöörata, ainult nõrgamõistuslikud üldse kahtlevadki selles, kas tegemist on nö pettusega.
Ja ohh seda rõõmu, kui saite vastata ja peale seda rohkem vastuseid ei tulnud
Nalja saab hoopis siis, kui mänguga kaasa minna ja neil endil nahk üle kõrvade tõmmata, DevilDaVille stiilis postitused on igavad
Need robot stiilis saadetud mailid otsivad idioote ja nagu ka eesti uudised kajastanud on, siis neid leidub ka eestis. Ja saates neile nüüd omaarust tark jutt vastu, selge see ju, et nad ei viitsi midagi tõestama hakata, kuna tegemist on standard petuskeemiga.

Mis seal siis nii imeliku on? Ükskõik kelle nimel on võimalik meili saata. Kui näiteks kasutad outlooki meili kliendina siis võid oma konti nimeks ja e-mailiks mida iganes kirjutada. Kuna väljasaatmiseks kasutad internetiühenduse pakkuja e-mailiserverit, siis ei kontrollita mingit konto olemasolu ja paroolide vastavust. Loomulikult kui e-maili päist lugeda on saatja ip jne välja loetavad. Samamoodi on võimalik kodulehe vahenditega meili saatjaks mida iganes kirjutada, aga eks seal on samamoodi näha, mis domeenist ta tegelikult saadetud on. Enamus siiski ei kasuta õiget aadressi vaid panevad küll sama firma nime kuskile e-maili, aga domeen on mingi teine. Eks seal ka see eesmärk, et teise nime kasutades võib rohkem jama tulla kui lihtsalt mingi pettukatsega.

Okei. Ma lihtsalt ei ole kursis sellega.

Nigeerias on 22,980,200 interneti kasutajat. Ja ma olen kõigilt neilt meili saanud.

auto on soomes müügis: helistas soome mees täna.
Kes väidetavalt on soome autoärikas. Kes ostab eestist ja ameerikast autosi kokku.
Esmaspäev pidi tulema tal ameerikast autod eestisse ? kotka sadam? vms..
Poindist sain aru nii, et kuna auto tahab ülevärvimist ja väheseid parandusi, siis ta tahtis nii et annab mulle raha ja mina teen eestis auto korda ja ühel hetkel kui auto valmis, tuleb ja ostab auto ära ja viib soome...

mis te arvate?
kus konks võib olla? on ennegi sellist asja olnud vms

äkki leiad selle autoärika nime või mingi firma ?

Räägiks natuke müügiseiklustest, mis täna hommikul hakkas.

Tuli kiri:

You have been sent a request for more information from Kuldne Börs:

hello
i will like to known the condition of this vehicle and if is still available for sale ?and how much is your asking price in euro? please get back to me as soon as possible.
thanks

You can see the ad at:
http://www.kuldnebors.ee/7571012

Vastasin:
Hello.
Price is 3100 euros and car is very good condition. I have not seen so well condition Octavia from year 1997. In this year car, it is very very good working car. And it's still available .
If you want more information, pictures or somethin, only ask.



Tema:
I am happy to read from you and I want you to know that am buying this
for dad......I would have prefer to come and inspect the item and pay
you in cash but I can’t due to the nature of my work. I'm an
oceanist, I am at sea right now, i am willing to pay you your asking
price, I can only pay through my bank online(bank of canada
transfer)or paypal at this moment as I do not have access to any other
payment method,and this is why i will be insisting in paying via the
bank transfer.....all I will need is your bank account details or your
paypal email address so i can log into my bank website online to
transfer the funds.Also note that i will have a pick up agent that
will come for the pick after payment has been sorted.
P.S: I will really appreciate it if you can send me some photos of the
car

the agent accept only western union for mode of payment and i will
have transfer this money to him but i don't bring my credit card on
board and there is no western union outlet on sea so i want you to
send your banks details or your paypal email address to me so i can
transfer the money to you right now hope to read from you soon.



Mina:
Ok. But who is your agent and how and where the car goes with your agent? Is not difficult for your agent to come in Estonia?

My bank details:
Saaja nimi (Reciever name): Mikk xxxx
Saaja aadress (Reciever address): xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (siin olid andmed)
Saaja IBAN (Reciever IBAN - this is the correct bank account number): xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Saaja pank (Reciever bank): Swedbank
Saaja panga aadress (Reciever bank address): Liivalaia 8, Tallinn, 15040, Estonia
Saaja panga S.W.I.F.T kood (Reciever bank S.W.I.F.T code): HABAEE2X

And please tell me now, how do you plan get the car, when and where?




Tema:
i would also like you to know that i will be adding the agent fee of
800 euros to the payment making the total of 3,900 euros so that the
agent can come pick up the car from your address,so i will be sending
the payment now.........thanks and i want you to go and remove the car
advert from the site.


Siis tuli kolm erinevat kirja Royal Bank Canada- lt, kust ma sain aru (nagu ka tema oma järgmises kirjas väitis), et kuna ta merel ja pole mingit krediitkaarti vms, siis ei saa agendile maksta 800 eurot toomistasu ja et mina selle ära maksaksin, mispeale tuleb minu arvele koheselt 3900 eurot. Äärmiselt kahtlane.

Tema veel:
payment has been made and i sent €3,900.00 euros in all, the Bank said
they would be holding the funds and it will not be credited into your
account because of the excess payments of 800 euros i added which was
meant for pick up and delivery,they said they have emailed you to this
effect, i will need you to send an upfront payment of 800 euros out of
your pocket to my pick up agent Headquarters via western union money
transfer I tried to pay it by myself online but I will need a credit
card which I didn't bring on board, and there is no post office or any
western union agent on sea so i cant locate any western union office
here i would have loved to wire the money to him through western union
myself cause that's the only payment method they accepts so please
transfer the money so that my bank can credit the €3,900.00 euros into
your account as soon as you have emailed the western union details to
them,Here is the pick up agent information needed to get the money
sent through western union money transfer:

Name:Jhonson Cole
Address:34,coombe road,
City:Brighton,
Zip Code:BN24EA.
Country:United Kingdom


Mina:
This is little bit suspicious. I can't send 800 euros in my pocket, because i just don't have this money at the moment. And how is the agent in estonia or how car get into you and where?


Agent:

Dear Mikk ,
I am Mr Jhonson Cole, the manager assigned to come pick the car bought from you, please be inform that we have been contacted by the buyer regarding a possible pick up date and due to these we have decided to contact you to this effect, but we are sorry to inform you that we cant come for the pick up due to the fact that the pick up fee of 800 euro has not been paid yet,we have contacted the buyer of the car to inform him that until we receive 800euro for the insurance fee we cant come for the pick up so we strongly advice you send the 800 euro fee on his behalf due to his unavailability to send money so we could book available date with you to pick the car up.We do hope to talk to you soonest.

Below is the Transfer Address:

Mr Jhonson Cole
addess;34,coombe road,
Brighton,
BN24EA.
United Kingdom

Yours Sincerely

Mr Jhonson Cole

Manager Realtyagent
+447024045585


Mina:
Hello Mr Jhonson.
I cannot pay the pick up fee 800 euros, because haven't got money from the buyer and i understand that the money isn't come in my account before the 800 euros is payd. But i don't trust to pay this money in my pocket. One of my family member works in bank and he said that this isn't right, because when someone want's to transfer money in my account, then this isn't limited and that value of money (3900) should come into my account before.
The buyer maybe can transfer to you 3900 euros and you pay me. This is more right.


Tema:
Like i told you before i am buying the car for my father has a gift
and my shipping company which will send their agent to come and pick
the car up from your place.So i want you to try and get the money sent
to the address of the agent through western union and then send the
transfer details to the bank so that they can release the total
payment into your account.


Mina:
Which country your father lives? The agent is in United Kingtom and in England steering is on right side. And i mus send money with post not transfer? This isn't right. One of my family member works in bank and told me that, if you or somebody wants transfer money into my account, then it is not a problem and i don't have to transfer my money somewhere.


Mida küll sellisest asjast arvata. Kas tüngamati...tundub väga autot tahtvat ja tahtis lisada lausa msni, et jätkata lihtsamalt juttu?
Äärmiselt kahtlane ning mina omast taskust küll mingit raha kandma ei hakka.
Nüüd räägime msnis ja põhimõte selles, et kui mina seda vastu ei võta ja 800 ära ei maksa, saab ta küll oma kantud raha tagasi, aga pank võtab 20% vahelt. Rääkisin pikalt ja laialt, et kui tal huvi reaalselt on, maksku enne ära kõik. Aga ilmselge petukas.
Ega see, et ma nüüd oma panga andmed (arve nri saatsin), ega selle kaudu nüüd mingit jama mulle korraldada ei saa?
On kellelgi selliste petturitega kogemusi?

Kõik foorumid sellest teemast nii läbi nämmutatud, see on jah petuskeem kus tõmmatakse su pangakonto puhtaks või kasutatake su nime identiteedi varguseks.

Aga minu konto numbri kaudu kontot paljaks tõmmata siiski ju ei saa? St kui ma ise kuhugi midagi ei kanna, siis jääb puutumata?
Peaks kuhugi äkki pöörduma ja fikseerima antud olukorra?

Sain täpselt sama kirja, isegi sõnasõnalt.. aga aimasin halba kohe.. saatsin pikalt

Raisad ikka viitsivad huiata

pick up agent Headquarters

Ma ka ei saa aru, mismoodi peaks saama konto numbri järgi arvet tühjaks tõmmata.

Kontonumbri järgi saab väga edukalt konto tühjaks tõmmata, kui see aind satub õige inimese kätte kes arvutiga imesid teha oskab ja selle järgi kõik muud andmed ka teada saab.